![]() ![]() *When you change the impedance rating of the speaker, you also change the inductance of the coil which changes the resonant frequency among other things. In that, the P50 will perform better in our cab than any others.Īnd now you know that when you say V30, you could be talking about 5 different speakers - that all sound slightly different:* What is optimized for the P50E is the cabinet design. Our amps are not voiced "only" for the P50E. So, if you like V30s, there is nothing about the amp design that will be compromised using a V30. The T3904 is now made in China and after all these years, the P50E does what we wanted Celestion to do originally - and does it better, in fact - so we don't need Celestions help. It's not that V30s don't sound good with our amps. We haven't used Celestions speakers since. After a couple of months back and forth, we placed a large order and requested the special number assignment, at which time they cancelled the order and reneged on the deal. Then a new rep called us, confirmed that there were in fact two separate V30 production lines and agreed to make us a special T Number OEM speaker. They had claimed that they didn't offer OEM varitions of the V30, but changed their story when we sent them a T4416 "for evaluation". When we were using Celestion speakers, we found out about the existence of the T4416 which we had purchased from our German distributor at the time and asked Celestion about it. There is a third 16 ohm version only used by Marshall - T3897 - which is even brighter. This speaker was made on a separate production line from the off-the-shelf V30, which as Van Nord says is fizzy and thin sounding by comparison. To get an OEM model from Celestion requires a large order. The 8 ohm version of the Mesa speaker is the T4335. Mesa didn't like it and insisted on the original version, which then became an OEM model. From what we were told by Celestion around 1997-8, Celestion changed the model T3904 (16 ohm) V30 design in the early 90s to make it easier and cheaper to produce. It is made in England specifically for Mesa. This is the T4416 model, which is an 16 ohm speaker. The rated power handling of the V30 of any version (see below) is 65W. But making a distinction between the Mesa version and the off-the-shelf version is legit, even though it has little to do with actual power handling capacity. The 30 in V30 has nothing to do with power handling. #MESA BOOGIE SERIAL NUMBER LOOKUP CODE#Currently, the "best" ones being the ones from Mesa Boogie with the T4416 code according to "those in the know." There were slight variations in the construction for example the magnet being cast or cut and the basket being stamped or not. There are a number of different variations within the V30 family over the years. I have read a similar thread and I thought there might be more than five but i can't find that thread right now. Found this over at rig talk and supposedly its from freyette. ![]()
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